November 13, 2010

Sea Level Rise Erasing History

In a post on what scientists should say about sea level rise was this comment which really puts our future into perspective.

A taste over 200 years ago Lewis and Clark wintered on the shores of the Columbia River. Today I can still go to their camp sights and view their views. Sit where they sat. Ninety years from now most of that will be under water. A hundred years more, yet another ten feet of sea level will have erased all but the highest points of encampment. Ninety years is within the life span of the youngest of today’s youth. One hundred more, the age of their great grand children. Even then sea level rise does not stop… A foot per decade, year upon year… Is our infrastructure adequate? You do not need a scientist, take a ruler and see for yourself… -- Leif

Posted by Mary at November 13, 2010 09:44 AM | Environment | Technorati links |

Amazing, simply amazing. Did you catch that conservative bastion, the Guardian's article titled "World's forest can adapt to climate change, study says", by Alok Jha ?

According to Carlos Jaramillo, "a scientist at the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute (STRI), examined pollen from ancient plants trapped in rocks in Colombia and Venezuela. "There are many climactic models today suggesting that … if the temperature increases in the tropics by a couple of degrees, most of the forest is going to be extinct," he said. "What we found was the opposite to what we were expecting: we didn't find any extinction event [in plants] associated with the increase in temperature, we didn't find that the precipitation decreased.""

"In a study published today in Science, Jaramillo and his team studied pollen grains and other biological indicators of plant life embedded in rocks formed around 56m years ago, during an abrupt period of warming called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum. CO2 levels had doubled in 10,000 years and the world was warmer by 3C-5C for 200,000 years.

Contrary to expectations, he found that forests bloomed with diversity. New species of plants, including those from the passionflower and chocolate families, evolved quicker as others became extinct. The study also shows moisture levels did not decrease significantly during the warm period. "It was totally unexpected," Jaramillo said of the findings."

""What the fossil record is showing is that plants have already the genetic variability to cope with high temperature and high levels of CO2.

"Rather than global warming, the [trouble] for tropical plants is deforestation. The fossil record shows that, when you don't have humans around, the plants can deal with high temperatures and CO2.""

The Guardian has always promoted the belief in man made global warming. They aren't a conservative rag. Seems those models being used require a lot of adjusting, or more programming. Here's another report that isn't hiding the decline. And conservation fans, this report says man is more the problem with deforestation than with warming, at least where the Amazon rain forest is concerned.

Oh and Mary, why won't you allow me to post at that other blog you're associated with? I've installed a 3.675 kWdc pv system at my home, courtesy of Oncor Electric and Solar City. Just today my system generated 14.82 kWh of electricity. Not bad for November 13th. Only, I chose this route for bill reduction only. And I'm in what many would call low income housing. I'm one of what Paradox would call "the little people". Free speech doesn't seem to mean much to the left coast. It's so easily taken away.

Posted by: peter the bellhop at November 13, 2010 09:18 PM

And we wonder why Al Gore brought that nice 9 million dollar home on the Pacific coast near Santa Barbara? He'll lose his house in 90 years, nothing left for his grandchildren.

Posted by: peter the bellhop at November 13, 2010 09:25 PM